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Situation with the Jamaican Wikipedia[edit suos]

As I see this Wiki-project grows up, but it needs some help in it's creation. It has it's own request for creation, 500 most used messages have been translated, but Statistic is not well. For creation we need minimum 5 active users in this Wiki (minimum 10 edits per month for 1 person). Please, act! This wiki looks very good, but it needs your help in creation! Please, say, what do you think about it?--Andrijko Z. 17:00, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

  • I will try to find some volunteers right now. I believe we need some Jamaicans, so I will forward this link to my friends and ask them to do the same. I can't promise to be very active, but I will try to do at least the minimum you mentioned. --Hroobjartr 21:29, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
    • I understand the situation. I'll try to help out, and hopefully, we'll get more help.  Hazard-SJ  ±  04:54, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
      • Excuse for not saying anything before but I was a bit busy. I'll try to find some help and to have more editions in Jamaican. --Chabi 10:15, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Dem av any standad spellins an gramma mi shuda know 'bout?[edit suos]

Mi come ya so caa smady ask mi fi come look at sup'n, but mi no know if di patwa mi taak a di patwa whe unnu accep ya (Fi one t'ing, mi no naamaly seh "ya"; mi did affi change "here" to "ya" w'ile me did a write dis.) Mi can taak English an write English fairly O.K., but mi no 'av no idea how fi write patwa.

One more t'ing: Mi live ina Jamaica all mi life an mi neva ina mi whole life see nobody spell "page" piej. SamBlob (talk) 22:48, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Mi agree wid yu 'bout di spellin' issue, 'cause mi 'ave di same problem dem. Di best option weh mi si a fi wi propose fi get wan Wiktionary an' use di word dem from desso as di standaad pon di wiki. Wi chat nuff patwa, but wi nuh rite it, dat a wi problem. Mi ago consida wan Wiktionary, 'cause wi need fi saat dis out.  Hazard-SJ  ±  17:48, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Mi look at di front page again...[edit suos]

... an' nobody ina Jamaica no write like dis! It no undastandable at all! Unnu a try bruk dis t'ing down wit' funetics (wit' nida fun nor ethics) an' a try spell it di way unnu t'ink it fi spell! Any Ja'can a try read dat wouda scratch dem head and seh "A wa' di rahtid dem a try seh?" (Dem might use stronga word dan "rahtid", tu!) SamBlob (talk) 22:59, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Di hungli conclusion mi can come to is dat unnu a try mek fun a wi. SamBlob (talk) 23:03, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi SamBlob, I am not knowledgeable about Jamaican Patois/Creole, but it would appear from User:Yocahuna that there is a couple of different orthography's for written Jamaican Patois/Creole. Perhaps the orthography you use is the natural one? And the other is an academic one? I really don't know either way, but this could be one reason why "spelling" is different? Russavia (talk) 05:35, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
I'll be glad if rather be up this section !! -- 11:55, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

What is this?[edit suos]

Jamaican Patois? Why is there a Wikipedia in this language? IllogicMink (talk) 00:05, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, as can also be seen on the info page. --MF-W {a, b} 23:44, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
This is just English in a weird Jamaican accent. There's no point having a Wikipedia in it. IllogicMink (talk) 07:39, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Fortunately, your linguistic criteria is not the definitive one. You've shown your knowledge of Creole linguistics with your comments. Chabi — The preceding unsigned comment was added by (diskoshankanchribdem) 09:04, 20 April 2015 (UTC).
Who, me? IllogicMink (talk) 08:33, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Jamaican Patois is a creole language, not an "accent" or even a dialect of English. The orthography used does appear to be a problem. Until that is solved satisfactorily, I doubt the incubator will ever improve to the point of going live. - BilCat (talk) 21:13, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

This is hardly Patois[edit suos]

judging from my experience (half of a year living with jamaicans, who were talking to each other in patois) i would say that what you write here is NOT patois. and this spelling is something horrible tbh - i strongly doubt it is used in any academic sources where patois is long-described. and are there any jamaicans down here at all? i guess (from what i've read here) this project is run but white rasta wannabes, this kind of "patois" is what they "speak" over the internet to sound more "jamaican" (that's laughable in fact). facts my brothers. -- 10:04, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Alright, I looked again and I appear to have been right. Germans, Ukrainians, Russians thats who i see here. Guys, stop it, this is not funny at all. Read some literature on topic before attempting to write Patois. It is a SEPARATE language, and knowing english plus listening to some reggae won't teach you Patois. Patois is not a "reggae language", Jamaicans actually speak it. And it sounds nowhere similar to what you write here. If you want to be more rasta then your objective is far removed from purposes of wikipedia, and trying to relate to rasta culture more by doing this bullshit is pathetic, yo. -- 10:11, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Your concern is noted. With the exception of the administrator, the editors working on this project are all Jamaican native speakers of Patwa utilizing Cassidy orthography with which you may not be familiar. The register utilized is basilectal, again with which you may not be familiar. They are in addition advocates of Patwa becoming recognized officially as a nation language, and one has authored a Patwa primer. Rasta is a dialect of Jamaican and has not been utilized so your notion is baseless.--Yocahuna (talk) 13:24, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
The Bible New Testament has been translated into this orthography. The text and audio version can also be found here. --A-eng (talk)‎ 05:17, 18 Mie 2016 (EST)
modification by StevenJ81 (talk)‎ 09:12, 18 Mie 2016 (EST)
To be fair, like the Administrator I'm not a Jamaican native speaker. But I'm trying to help with administrative tasks and am doing my best, even if I make mistakes. In the meantime, I would direct the IP to Help:Jumiekan Patwa spelling policy and the website it is based on for more information before s/he continues to criticize. StevenJ81 (talk)‎ 09:12, 18 Mie 2016 (EST)

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